With all due respect you're off on the late Fr. Martin.
Nick Fluh
With all due respect you're off on the late Fr. Martin. He effectively confirmed the 3rd Secret of Fatima by confirming "elements" of a text read to him over the air on the Art Bell Show. The "elements" read which he said belonged in the version of the 3rd Secret published in Neues Europa which was a version of the 3rd secret published with "additional padding" and apparently (as the story goes) confirmed by Cardinal Ottaviani as to what was in and not in the 3rd secret.
This way Cardinal Ottaviani did not violate his vow and neither did the late Fr. Martin. At any rate we know for sure that very soon after Fr. Martin died the Vatican led by Cardinal Bertone. It was plainly obvious they had waited until Fr. Martin died to publish this bogus third secret. Fr. Martin never mentioned anything related to JPII and the 3rd secret, he only mentioned that he was given a copy to read at the Vatican in (1960?), before JPII was pope. The only thing I know about Fatima from JPII is what he said at Fulda, Germany in 1980. What JPII said there confirms the 3rd Secret in Neues Europa and aligns with what Malachi Martin said "elements of" on Art Bell and also aligns with Akita. Here is the Neues Europe text with the "extra padding" words removed: "
A great chastisement will fall on the entire human race; not today as yet, not tomorrow, but in the second half of the twentieth century. No longer does order reign anywhere and Satan will reign over the highest places directing the course of events. He (Satan) really will succeed in infiltrating to the top of the Church. Also for the Church a time of Her greatest trials will come. Cardinals will oppose Cardinals; Bishops will oppose Bishops and Satan will march amid their ranks, and in Rome there will be changes. What is rotten will fall, and what will fall will never rise again. The Church will be darkened and the world deranged by terror.
A great war will break out within the second half of the Twentieth Century, fire and smoke will fall from Heaven, the water of the oceans will become vapors and the foam will rise up flooding and sinking everything, millions and millions of people will die by the hour and the survivors will envy the dead. Death will reign everywhere for the errors committed by the foolish and by the partisans of Satan, who, then and only then, will reign over the world. At last, those who will survive all of these events will once more proclaim God and His Glory and serve Him like before, when the world was not as corrupted." Is there more? A part two which details a "bad council" Don't know but probably doesn't matter at this point now that we know the above.
Third Secret from Sr. Lucia to the pope. Pope of 1960 to reveal the secret. Good pope John? A worm ridden pope as referred to by the BVM to Melonie Calvat of LaSalette.
Third Secret a dire document. Of course. Not pleasant. Chastisement? Yes, several.
Under oath not to repeat the secret.
Not word for word. It ain’t pleasant. There is going to be a reckoning.
No one existing on face of earth will be exempt from the power on high. Will interpret differently.
There will be people who reject it.
Aurora Borealis of 1938 being explained as an example. Only Adolph Hitler recognized it. Albert Spear cited in his book.
1917 BVM told the children of Fatima that this sign means the next war with killing of millions.
Yes and no can you speak of.
It is not 200 years or 50 or 20 years.
It involves the entire world system.
He cited 3 Days of Darkness. Danger: It is a spiritual; not natural or civil. Really?
Based on private revelation which Roman churchman have accepted for example in La Salette, Fatima, other places since then. Final Chastisement from God. Not rapture like. But end of world. Really? When the Anti-Christ is abroad. Really? Dimming of the Sun, total darkness of the world. Really? Last attempt of demons attempt to take over our lives. Really?
Nich Fluh Repsonse:
JMJ, John P. Thanks for your feedback. I will attempt to make specific replies to your commentaries and references to the late Fr. Malachi Martin. Should we disagree, that is OK. Prophecies and associated commentary are not only conditional, but it is not required of Catholics to necessarily believe.
Still…
Regarding the Art Bell conversation, Fr. Martin stated that the Third Secret is a “dire document”. “Not Pleasant”. He referred to it as a “chastisement”. To these I agree. He stated he is under oath not to speak about the specifics of the Third Secret. Then he says it “ain’t pleasant. There is going to be a reckoning.” Of course.
He also stated that people will reject it. What the “it” is, he specifically avoided. He referred to the Aurora Borealis of 1938 as being an example. This causes me to wonder is he confusing The Warning with the Third Secret? Apparently, he was referring to events associated with the chastisement occurring not 200 years or 50 or 25 years but sooner. I ask what?
Regarding no references to JPII, as he stated in his conversation, he was not at liberty to talk about the specifics in the Third Secret. So of course, he would not and could not comment on that. Regardless, did not JPII send a cornerstone brick to Fatima? He most certainly did.
Regarding Fr. Martin’s reference to the Three Days of Darkness, he is clearly inaccurate on the scope of this chastisement. It is far beyond just a “spiritual darkness” over the world. I do not understand his comment in this regard. It is a final act of mercy and justice by God to end the worldwide conflagration. See video below:
As regards to his reference of “Good Pope John” that is his view. Why did Roncalli choose the papal name John XXIII? That name was already assigned to the anti-pope Baldassarre Cossa, who reigned from 1410 to 1415 during the Western Schism. Our Lady of La Salette referred to him as one of the “two worm ridden popes of the 20th century” to the persecuted prophet, Françoise Mélanie Calvat. The other was anti-pope Paul VI.
Regarding the Neues Europa and Akita, they certainly are consistent with La Salette, Knock, Fatima and Garabandal. However, Neues Europa has been sensationalized somewhat and interpreted out of context. Regardless, I have done a number of videos on the subject of tying in all the other apparitions.
Here are examples.
Did you know that Our Lady of Knock appeared on the same day as the Consecration of the Sanctuaire Notre-Dame de La Salette? And She was facing in the direction of La Salette and Rome. And look at the other attendees and the Bible where it was opened. It was raining. No words, but the imagery was definitive.
As regards the Neues Europa words, yes, a chastisement had ensued in the second half of the 20th century, and that is heresy and schism, starting with the Vatican II council, an evil council. And hasn’t the NWO dilettantes, Masons, Talmudic Jews and Satanists been busy taking over the world in this period?
The Church is “darkened”. All the other references regarding war and environmental disasters are also referenced by numerous Catholic prophecies over the centuries. There are a number of videos on my youtube channel that cover this.
Yet, I assert they have nothing to do with the Third Secret per se. They have much to do with comments and prophecies made at La Salette, Knock, Fatima, Beauraing and Banneux, Heede, Garabandal and Akita as it pertains to the consequences of the loss of Faith.
As Cardinal Ottaviani indicated, the Third Secret is primarily about the “crisis of Faith”. Or as it has been revealed already, “In Portugal the dogma of the Faith will always be kept…”
Fr. Joaquin Alonso: “If 'in Portugal the dogma of the Faith will always be preserved,' ...it can be clearly deduced from this that in other parts of the Church these dogmas are going to become obscure or even lost altogether.” Fr. Alonso maintained that the Third Secret refers to a "crisis in the Faith of the Church and to the negligence of the pastors themselves."
As the BVM said in 1846 at La Salette, “The priests, ministers of my Son, the priests, by their wicked lives, by their love of money, their love of honors and pleasures, the priests have become cesspools of impurity….Rome will lose the Faith and become the seat of the Antichrist…The Church will be in eclipse, the world will be in dismay.” Well has it been any better with the clergy and religious since 1846?
Regarding the purported Third Secret which I presented in the video below:
Note that the forensics are quite compelling. The size of the letter/paper is consistent with what was reported at the time including the number of lines of written text. And the style or manner of this version is quite consistent with Sr. Lucia’s previous two disclosures of secrets. And it is certainly not impossible, in fact it is quite reasonable that the BVM would cite JPII just as She did with Pius XI pertaining to WWII. And Vatican II and the introduction of the Novus Ordo Mass was prophecized decades ago, multiple times as being a “bad council” and a “Mass that is odious in My sight” by Jesus Christ himself to Marie-Julie Jahenny.
So I am compelled to stand by my assertions in the video.
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